The Power of Mindset and Mental Skills (Part 1 of 2)

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Hey everybody, it's Jeremy Tier [00:01:00] and this is episode 14 of the Mission Admissions podcast. We've got two episodes left in season one, and I've decided to do a special two part series on mindset, mental skills, and mental tough. , all of those things are topics that I've been asked about a lot over the last 12 months at conferences and during the meetings and workshops that I have as part of the staff training workshops that I do.

And I'm very fortunate to have two amazing guests who are gonna join me, who are experts on all of those subjects. And the first one today is Lindsay Wilson. Lindsay is a former professional athlete who is now a well known performance mindset coach. End speaker who teaches athletes, teams and organizations how to unlock their full potential through mental performance training.

Her work has been featured in espn, Huff Post and The New York Times. And a fun fact about Lindsay that I just learned was that in high school she was featured in an Oscar nominated documentary called The Heart of the Game. So welcome to the show, [00:02:00] Lindsay. Thanks, Jeremy. Thanks for having me. Lindsay. Why is mindset so important when it comes to our personal and professional?

Lindsey Wilson: Oh, that is a question that we could spend the entire podcast on, and I'm sure we will. Um, you know, I think so many of us, I think are, are really ill prepared for understanding how important. and how critical our mindset is in our everyday reality. And you know, we, we consciously want things to happen, right?

We wanna have a nice life, we wanna make money, we wanna have good relationships. Everybody wants good things in their life. And there's really this sort of invisible force behind all of that, which is our deep subconscious. And if we don't spend. Working on that, then the, the reality that we live in, um, doesn't actually shift that much.

Even though we're working really hard and trying really hard and wanting things, it's just really not enough to work hard and want things. You really have to work on this invisible driver. Yeah. 

Jeremy Tiers: [00:03:00] And so why do you think a lot of people don't work or maybe don't spend as much time as they do in other areas on their mindset?

Lindsey Wilson: Well, I think there's two reasons. I think either they don't know about it. No one told 'em. You know, it's not like we, you know, I, I think schools are starting and, and or, you know, parenting has changed a lot. People are trying to instill. These ideas and emotional inte and all these things that are so critical really to lifelong happiness and success at a younger age.

But some people don't get that memo for whatever reason. Um, and I think the second thing is it's not so cut and dry what to do, You know, like everybody understands and, and. Can see the results pretty quickly. If they go to the gym and they start, you know, doing squats, your glutes are gonna get stronger, your hamstrings are gonna get stronger, you're gonna feel the difference.

You're gonna say, Oh, it's because of these squats. You know, the work on the mindset side is not so cut and dry. There's a, there's a lot of things you can do and I think the [00:04:00] confusion really, um, allows people to just get overwhelmed and be like, Well, I don't know where to start and so I'm not gonna do. 

Jeremy Tiers: So when was the first time then?

I mean if you can remember back when, you just remember seeing this whole concept of, wow, look what mindset can do when I work on it for you. 

Lindsey Wilson: Yeah. I really had sort of three very distinct, um, Experiences with mentors. And, uh, I remember each one specifically. Uh, I remember when I was 12 years old that I had a strength coach that would have us lie down at the end of practice or, um, workouts and do like visualization imagery, um, on recovery.

And I remember that very distinctly. I was 12 years old and I was like, Huh. It's interesting. Yeah. And uh, he had been actually been trained, he was an Olympia, former Olympian. He had been trained by Bill Bowerman who was really into this stuff, you know, in the seventies. And then I had a mentor when I was 16, a coach and mentor that specifically started teaching me about positive affirmations and subconscious programming and really, uh, how [00:05:00] our belief systems and our thoughts about what we're capable of and what we're worthy of, how that influences our everyday reality.

And in that, Our performance. I was a basketball player. I really wanted to play at the next level. And so I was very driven to, um, to do anything I could to improve that, uh, you know, ability. And so I remember that. And then when I was playing professionally, I started working with a hypnotist. And I remember the first time that he took me through, um, a self hypnosis and.

I remember crying afterwards and I remember thinking, this is what I've been missing. This is the, the deep work that, you know, I, I'd done as, you know, basketball player, I, I'd done a million hours in the gym. Like there was things I still could improve on the physical side, but that certainly was not the thing that was holding me back.

So those were my three sort of, when the student is ready, the teacher appears and they certainly did for me in my life. 

Jeremy Tiers: So what, cuz of course I'm curious, as I'm sure the audience is, what did the hypnotist really unlock, Ben? 

Lindsey Wilson: Well, I think, you know, a lot of, um, you know, I, I, I believe in the, [00:06:00] in the, in the saying that change happens slowly and then all at once.

And so a lot of times I think in, in my work and in the students that I, I, I certify other mindset coaches and in their work with their clients, you know, there's these aha moments, right? But I think almost more important than that is these moments when, uh, a coach or a mentor. Let's say a healer, if you wanna use that word, teaches you maybe even something that you already knew, which is, in those cases, your brain is entirely powerful and it can do anything that you want it to do.

And you know, you thought you were the problem, and it's true, but you're also the solution. I remember it's almost like it was less about what happened in that session and more about the awareness of like, Oh my God, I can do this. This is. This is what I needed and I now have this awareness that I'm not my thoughts, that these things are fixable, that there's hope.

And I think, um, that's a [00:07:00] big part of what I want my, again, my clients or even my coaching, uh, certification students to instill in their clients. 

Jeremy Tiers: So is it the words then that are so powerful, Lindsay, not only with what that hypnotist did with you, but what you do right now with the people you partner with?

Or what do you feel like the difference is? 

Lindsey Wilson: No, anybody who studied anything about leadership or parenting or coaching kind of knows what wor, I mean, there's, there's definitely i improvements you can do in words, you know, and, and, and how you improve and how you motivate people and how you inspire them and how you instill confidence in them.

Those are great, and those things work to a degree, but when people have really deep-seated beliefs that are blocking them, they really, you really need to go to another level and that level. Speaking to your subconscious with, um, deep breathing and imagery work and the use of metaphors and stories and, and journaling and, and mindfulness.

There's a lot of different tools that help us access that part of us, but it's not [00:08:00] happening when we're just, you know, going through our day and emptying the dishwasher and driving and working and doing our emails when there's so much noise around, we're not really connecting with that deep part of ourselves that allows us to then make those changes from the.

Jeremy Tiers: If someone then wants to improve their mindset, whether it's their negative, they wanna be more positive, whether it's their like, Okay, Lindsay, I like what you're saying, but like what you said a few minutes ago, I don't know where to start, so what am I supposed to do? Yeah. What are a couple of easy techniques?

Is it the breathing? Is it the, you know, lying down and doing visualization? Like what have you found? Works really well for most of us. 

Lindsey Wilson: That's a hard question cuz it really depends on the person. I think. You know, any kind of breathing or meditation, I think guided is really important. Like guided visualization is really great, but for some people that's a really big jump to where they feel like.[00:09:00] 

It's so hard for them and it's so uncomfortable and they feel so bad at it that it's really discouraging. But I do think that that's a really great option. You know, like anytime you are connecting with your breath and slowing down and, and sitting in that discomfort, I think especially with phones, it's really hard for people sometimes to just do nothing for a little while.

So that. Can be really a space for growth. I think journaling is a really good, um, way to separate yourself from your thoughts, but there's also some cognitive behavioral, uh, techniques, which is recognizing that whatever thought we have and, and you can do this, you know, um, in your everyday life. You know, like I said, emptying the dishwasher.

If, if I'm emptying the dishwasher and I have a. I can understand how that thought is manifesting a result in my life in that moment, I can say. Okay. Um, well, I have a thought that, um, a [00:10:00] lot of people have a lot of big challenges with time, right? They think they can't get in, there's too much to do, They're overwhelmed, and so they have this thought, right?

Maybe they're under the dishwasher, they're checking their email and they, and they're start, they're starting their day and they say, What I'm thinking right now, and this is a really common one, is I. Too much to do and not enough time, right? So like we can take that thought and we can play out and understand how that deep thought, which we've now brought to our conscious mind is playing out in our lives.

So we have this thought, I don't have enough time. Basically, that thought leads to an emotion and generally that emotion will be something like, I'm not motivated or I'm overwhelmed, which leads us to take action. or leads us to not take action, which is also an action, right? I'm overwhelmed, so I don't know where to start, so I'm gonna go check Instagram, or I'm gonna go grab another coffee or I'm gonna procrastinate, right?

So that's gonna lead to an action, which leads to the results of not getting anything done. So you've seen how that plays out, right? We have all done that on a, like a Monday morning, and we spend the whole day thinking about how much time we don't [00:11:00] have, and then the day's gone and we still have not gotten anything done.

We have all been there. Imagine you check that thought and you say, Okay, that thought is not me. It's not truth. It's not an absolute fact. It is simply a thought. So let me try to shift that thought to something that's going to serve me better. So you could shift it to something like, I have just enough time to get done.

What's important to me? Now, that thought generally leads to an emotion. Empowering, maybe decisive, maybe, Uh, motivated. Empowered, which leads you to actually getting something done. You know, you're like actually then getting stuff done, which leads to the result of having things done, which then reinforces our original thought that we can get things done because we're able to prioritize, we're able to decide what's important to us.

And that's just a really simple example, but you can see how that simple awareness of what [00:12:00] our thought. So important. We are not our thoughts. They are not fact. They feel like fact almost every single time, Almost every single thought you have throughout the day you think it's a fact. So, uh, analyzing or just fig, just knowing that you're not your thoughts and then being able to have the awareness to shift them is it's like a superpower.

It can change your relationships, it can change your financial situation. It can change your job, It can change. Recognizing that you have that power is like, it's mind blowing. It really shifts. It has the potential to. Everything, and it can be done in the simplest ways. 

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It's just, it's human nature. Right. But when you start to realize, okay, but what about all the positive things that happen daily, weekly, in our lives? Why aren't we focused as much on those? Why are we focused more on the negative? And then you start to dig deep, and I had people help me do this when I was trying to figure out how do I get better with my mindset?

And [00:15:00] it's this unlock for me of like, are you just happy? Like, are you happy in your. Do you enjoy life? Do you enjoy your job? Do you feel like you're making a difference? Do you connect with your why? All of these things. And when I realized, wait. When I am happy. Right? Doesn't mean I'm not stressed, doesn't mean, you know.

Oh my gosh. I don't know if you know work life balance stuff I'm thinking about, but it just, I feel like it makes me with that mindset and that thought of being happy, a better dad, a better husband, a better friend, a better, and it was, it was just, it was somebody explaining that to me, Lindsay and I, I don't know why somebody explained it to me and gave me that unlock, but ever since that day, You know, for me, anytime I'm stressed, anytime I'm like exhausted from like a 17, 18 hour day cause I'm traveling.

I just think about the positive things and the, you know, gratitude for things I'm grateful for and it's like a complete shift. 

Lindsey Wilson: Well, yeah, and, and that's, I think an example of like how simple these things can be. Everybody wants like these big, huge, and you know, we, we [00:16:00] teach a lot of different tools, but.

Uh, there's not that many that work, you know? And you don't really need that many. You just need like a couple in your toolbox. And I think understanding how the brain really works, which is that negativity bias, right? Like our brain does not wake up in the morning and think, you know, this, this is what I wanna speak to a basketball team, or really any sports team.

And I go, Okay, you wanna be the best basketball player you can be today, right? Your brain doesn't actually want. Your brain wants you to survive and it the best way for you to survive is for today to look a lot like yesterday. Now, as a basketball player or as a driven person trying to do anything good in the world, you don't wanna be the same as you were yesterday.

That's the whole point of practice. That's the whole point of pushing yourself. But there's a part of your brain that is like, Whoa, let's not get all crazy. Let's stay safe, Let's keep things comfortable, let's think, keep things status quo. And part of that is, is making sure you're scanning for danger, looking at the negative.[00:17:00] 

That is how our brain operates. That's how it keeps us safe. And so there's a good side to that too. And you can kinda say, Thank you, brain, for keeping me safe. We're good. We don't have to see all the negative all the time. We can push ourselves, we can do risky things. I'm gonna have food tonight, hopefully, you know, I mean, for most people, they have shelter and they have food.

Not everybody, of course, right? But for a lot of people that're trying to push themselves, we really have to get back. And that's where the gratitude can come in of like, No, I'm safe, I'm warm, I'm, I'm okay. I can do, I can push myself and do these scary things that feel scary, but in fact, I'm. and my brain is, is, is not going to be necessarily supporting me in that in the beginning.

I have to just override that. 

Jeremy Tiers: And so if I'm hearing you right, if somebody's listening to this and they're letting negativity and frustration really affect their day to day because it's just there so much in their subconscious, is it literally just reiterating to yourself [00:18:00] verbally or you know, imagining it in your brain?

You know, I don't know which one's more effecti. You know what? There are things right that I have to be grateful for or that I know have been working for me, or things that I've been having success of, and I just have to remind myself of those things. Or am I off base and it's something else? 

Lindsey Wilson: No, I mean, like I said, I think there's, there's sort of like this little toolbox you can start building up, right?

And some things are gonna resonate more with other people than, or some people more than others. Um, but I think things like gratitude are great. I think the visualization, the breathing, the meditation, all that stuff is helpful. I do think journaling is a nice way, whether that's gratitude journal or just putting your thoughts down on paper because it's a very physical way of separating yourself from your.

You know, that, that is actionable, obviously. So that can create that distance that is sometimes hard to do in your own brain, but there's something about writing it down that you're like, Oh, it is, there it is. It's just a sentence. Right? It's [00:19:00] not me. So that can be really helpful. Um, you know, I, I think it's.

It's a lot like anything we do that, that has changed, right? Like you start lifting or working out it, it's hard at first. Your body does not wanna get off the couch. It's better to be on the couch and it's gonna really hurt running that first mile. But I, I think it's, it's those daily disciplines of being aware of your thoughts, recognizing that they are not, And then subtly shifting them.

I think sometimes it's also like to stay with the working out metaphor. It's like you don't go from the couch to running a marathon, right? And so when you're talking about mindset work, if you've never done it before, you're not gonna be positive. And, and, and frankly, being totally positive all the time is not the, the purpose.

The purpose is to pay attention to what your thoughts are creating in your life, and if they're creating what you want them to create. No change 'em. Right? But if you wanna shift [00:20:00] them, you shift them slowly. You don't go from the couch to a marathon, you go from the couch to walking to running a mile to running a 5k.

You know? And so slowly giving, cuz if once, if you go from, I'm just never gonna be negative again. I'm just gonna. Be positive all the time. There's also something called toxic positivity, right? Where you're just constantly trying to be positive and you're like, It's okay to be sad. It's okay to be mad.

It's okay to lose your shit on somebody. Like that is all okay. We want to be aware. That is number one first thing. 

Jeremy Tiers: So is it understanding, again, to your point, it's a balance and it just has to be the balance that works for you. Is that what you talk to a lot of people about when you're helping them with their.

Lindsey Wilson: There's nothing wrong with having negative emotions. There's nothing wrong with having doubts. It's really about how we are awareness about 'em and, and not layering on. So for, for example, like a great example is, is an athlete going into a game? The purpose of thought work is not, so, they [00:21:00] don't feel nervous, right?

The purpose of thought work is for them to say, Okay, I'm feeling nervous. How can I shift? Will that, will that serve? . Right? And is there a way for me to shift my thoughts to get the results that I want? So in that same example, one of the very simple things that we teach is, do you know what the difference is between being nervous and being excited?

Zero. Right? The, the, the physical experience of being nervous and being excited is absolutely no different. How we interpret. Is really, really important. So again, the layering. If an athlete feels nervous and says, I'm not supposed to feel nervous, only only bad athletes or bad basketball players feel nervous, then we're we're, we're not in a good mental state.

If we feel nervous and say, That is my body getting ready to be excited to play? That's a very different experience and it's [00:22:00] all based on our perception, right? We're still gonna have butterflies, we're still gonna be whatever. There's no difference in that. We're just not adding this layer of interpretation that isn't serving us right?

Cuz there's like a layer of like almost shame or um, blame. Right? And so we can feel and we can experience everything and we should, as a human being. We're not trying to be happy all the time. We can feel sad. That's okay. That is a human experience. Nobody should be going through life without her feeling sad.

That's weird, right? And it's like, how are we aware of when we're in those situations and do we have the tools to get us 

Jeremy Tiers: out? What do you think then makes somebody mentally tough? Lindsay? 

Lindsey Wilson: I do think that it's the ability to, um, manage one's mind because, you know, I talked about pregame and the interpretation of nerves versus excitement.

Um, we also teach things in game, the ability to deal with mistakes, the ab, the ability to, to fail. You know, I mean, those are the, [00:23:00] and, and you know that resilience, right? To be able to come to practice, you know, you played, you, you coach, like the ability to come to practice after you miss a game winning shot, right?

Like, that sucks. There's no amount of mental preparation that's gonna make that not suck, right? Like there isn't. And so how do we have that mental toughness to, to. Not go down, like we call it the negative train of just like wallowing and self pity and like, Yeah, I'm gonna be pissed and I'm gonna be mad at myself and I'm gonna feel all the feelings and then I'm gonna have the mental fortitude, which is mental strength to say.

We're gonna keep going. We're gonna go to practice, and then we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this. And you know, this is a part of growth and that's like shifting that thought to like, I'm a terrible basketball player, to, this is a part of it. This is the ups and downs. And that's like a maturity thing.

That's a mental toughness thing, but it really comes down to being able to shift your thoughts. 

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So how much of being mentally tough then do you. It ties in with self-awareness and accountability to your point, right? You make a mistake, you have a crappy game. You go, if you're listening to this to a college fair high school visit and you're talking with a student, you're like, That sucked. That was not what I was hoping, but I gotta go do another one in 30 minutes from now.

Is it trying to figure out, okay, I didn't do a good job preparing, I was unprepared. That's what I have to change, or, So again, self-awareness. You tell me, is that something that plays in, in that example? Yes. 

Lindsey Wilson: But I would also add in, um, I think one of the biggest, um, barriers to growth is, is like the emotions that we put into it, right?

So for example, um, if you do miss that game, money shot or you screw up that, that interview or whatever, so many of us are so hard on our. That we cannot allow [00:26:00] ourselves to look objectively at what went well and what went wrong. I was just doing a podcast about this, on my podcast about like, I used to hate watching game film because I was so hard on myself that I was just like, I don't even wanna see it.

You know? And I would make myself. Cause I had a coach that I trusted and she told me through stuff, but like I hated it. And like that is not, if we really wanna get to a high level, we have to be able to look at ourselves like ego aside and be like, This went well, this didn't go well. Um, we teach our athletes something called critiquing versus criticizing.

The, the ability to critique yourself as if you're coaching yourself un emotionally and just say, Hey, yeah, this went well. I wasn't prepared. This, this, you know, didn't go well because of this. Then we're talking about improvement. If we're just feeling bad for no reason, just because we don't wanna look at.

Things and we're just head in the sand, then we're not improving. And most people do the [00:27:00] latter, right? They just criticize themselves and feel sad or mad or whatever, and they don't take the time to step back and like ego aside, look at what could have gone better and also celebrate what went well. 

Jeremy Tiers: How much self-reflection do you do?

Is that something you know, you do daily, weekly? I mean, do you do a lot of self-reflection? 

Lindsey Wilson: Certainly like so for, for my business, We'll look, we'll have like debriefs on things. I used to do that after. I would do presentations a lot and you know, because you think you're gonna remember and it's like you got to be able to grow.

You gotta write down. I think for me, as I've gotten older and, and done, you know, my business, I am able to step back a little bit more and it's almost like more of like a curiosity. Um, I still get, I'm still hard on myself if something doesn't go wrong, Right. Or. You know, if, if someone wants to leave, leave a program or something like that, like I do, he, I feel my, my ego coming into it.

And I, I think I'm, [00:28:00] I'm not always good at putting that aside, but I, I feel like I'm more aware that it's happening, um, because it, it's a, it feels very, Self-indulgent almost to be like, just, I'm just gonna feel bad about this. Right? And sometimes you can do that as long as it, you don't stay there for too.

Jeremy Tiers: Well, that's the key. I think to your point, you don't stay there too long. Right. And there are, there are a lot of people who I talk with in the work that I do that just, they just refuse. It's almost like they can't see a lead at the end of the tunnel or a different way of thinking about things. And you know, to your point, I think it's just getting them to understand, Again, tell people all the time, you're gonna make mistakes.

We all make mistakes. I make mistakes all the time. But again, Are you learning? Okay, why am I making mistakes? Is it because I don't have the right habits? Is it because I wasn't prepared? Is it because I'm already psyching myself out before I even go do what I'm gonna do that this isn't gonna work? Oh my God, it didn't work last time.

There's no way it's gonna work this time. [00:29:00] And so I think just trying to figure those things out, hopefully, you know, will be helpful to people listening. How do you overcome, you talked about fear of failure. I mean, thoughts on how you help somebody overcome fear of failure? Lindsay, what? What helps you say, All right, I'm gonna screw stuff up, but like It's okay.

And here's why it's okay. 

Lindsey Wilson: Well, I think a couple things. I think. Surrounding yourself by people that are also taking risks. And normalizing failure, I think is really, really important talking about it. Um, and then, like I said, bringing that lightness to it. So in, in many cases talk, I talk about curiosity or even humor because so often, like the vulnerability of talking about failure is, um, something people wanna avoid.

And so the more we talk about it, the more we normal. That there are for sure gonna be failures on the way to any type of success. I mean, people know that consciously. Again, these are talk, we're talking about the subconscious though, and like we want to avoid [00:30:00] it so much, so we have to keep reiterating. To our brain that this is a part of it.

And so I think bringing that curiosity is really, really important. Thinking and talking about it a lot are, is really, really important to what the people you love, the people that you're surrounded with. And then I think making sure that you have that support and, and a plan for when it does happen because there's no way that you're gonna get to where you wanna get, being clear about where you wanna get to that, that you're gonna get there without falling on your face.

And. If you can get that into your mind, it makes it sort of like one of my mindset coaches used to say, you know, if I miss shots in a game, you'd say, and again, this is how you we're gonna be interpreting, Right. If I'm gonna be missing these shots, one thought could be, I'm the worst basketball player in the world.

I just went, Oh, for 10. Right. Doesn't really serve me to, to think that way. Right. But that's, that's kind of a natural, and it feels true, right? When we're talking about our thoughts, that feels true. That feels like a fact. Just [00:31:00] like I don't have any time, feels like a. But I can also tell myself and have the discipline to tell myself something like, I only have so many shots.

I only have so many mis shots in me. That thought allows me to deal with that failure in that moment and gives me that lightness and relief to be able to continue, you know, trying my best basical. So little shifts like that of, again, paying attention to our thoughts and our interpretation of failure instead of, I'm the worst whatever in the world.

It's this is, this is on the path to work to getting to where I wanna go. This is part of it. So that interpretation is really, really 

Jeremy Tiers: important. Lindsay, the last two things that we've been doing on every podcast are a signature question and fun rapid fire. So I'd like to know what one important piece of advice is that somebody's given you at some point in your life that is really stuck to this.

How, 

Lindsey Wilson: man, you're putting me on the spot. 

Jeremy Tiers: Um, what's the first thing 

Lindsey Wilson: that came to mind? [00:32:00] Uh, common sense is not so common. , my grandmother said that, and I think that's true, but I also think of that like, you know, sometimes we, we make things like more complicated and more like crazy than they need to be. You know, like coming, coming back to the basics, coming back to like your core values and things that are like true to you, I think is, is always worth worthwhile.

Jeremy Tiers: Fun rapid fire. I'm gonna give you a bunch of things and I just want you to gimme some quick thoughts as soon as I finish with each one of them, okay? Okay. , you're starting a team today. Diana tei or Sue Bird? 

Lindsey Wilson: Oh, probably, oh, that's a really tough one, but because I'm a point guard, I'd probably say Diana tei.

Jeremy Tiers: Hardest thing about being a professional athlete, 

Lindsey Wilson: I think the psychological like level that you have to stay at is something that most people don't understand. 

Jeremy Tiers: What's your favorite thing to do there in Seattle where you live? Hang out with my kids. [00:33:00] Funniest or funnest? I'll let you take it either way.

Interview you've done on your Mindset Coach Academy podcast. 

Lindsey Wilson: Depends what you mean by fun. I just did one that was really hard, but I'm gonna go with that one. Cause that's one sticking outta my mind. Yeah, we talked about regret and. I disclosed some, a lot of personal stuff, and I went through this process that, but it was so, I guess, I guess fun.

It was fun slash rewarding. Also really hard , 

Jeremy Tiers: and you're, Yeah. Yeah. What's the best mom advice you got? 

Lindsey Wilson: Oh, oh. Try to get some sleep. It's hard. Oh, I, no, I got a better one because this is, this is even harder is put your marriage first if you're married. Everybody says that. And it is so hard to do. And when my husband and I do, we're better for our kids.

So we're, we have to relearn this list lesson over and over again cause they're always pulling at us. But we get our dates, nights in and we, you know, do therapy and we spend time together and that's really, really important. And it's, it's so hard to fit it in, but 

Jeremy Tiers: we. [00:34:00] Well be intentional with it, right? As somebody who exactly has been married 23 years.

I only have one and she's 13 years old. But to that point, my wife and I find time every single month to do something, even if it's something small with each other. Cuz to your point, it's super important. Yeah. Lindsay, if people wanna learn more, check out your podcast. Just learn more about the trainings, the certifications and things you do, where's the best place to go and, and either check that out or social media, where can they follow you?

Any of that. 

Lindsey Wilson: Um, my podcast is the Mindset Coach Academy, so that's great for athletes and coaches and high performers. And I do, um, great interviews and, um, we do a mental Monday. So we talk a lot about, you know, little tips and tricks that you can implement in your life. Uh, from a mindset standpoint. My company is Positive Performance Training, and that's positive performance training.com.

And then on Instagram, I am at Lindsay Positive. 

Jeremy Tiers: Well, I appreciate you being on and sharing that with us and we'll link that stuff in the podcast. A [00:35:00] reminder that part two of my special two part series on mindset, mental skills and mental toughness will be released in a couple of weeks from now on December 6th.

So I hope to see many of you back here then. Thanks for your time, Lindsey. Thank you.

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