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About the Episode

The what's what...

Mickey and Jamie thought they were going to talk about one thing….but ended up on a COMPLETELY different topic (so tune back in to hear that later one). In true form to the show, we pivoted to talk about something else - a true riff!  So here it is…the topic - determining YOUR personal work life balance. 

Have you ever thrown shame on someone who you think is taking too much time off….OR someone who doesn’t take enough time off?  Do you consider yourself qualified to measure how other people are dealing with this balance? 

We live in a world, in a society, and in an industry where there is a LOT of expertise…but does that qualify us to judge when someone else has a work life balance issue?  Maybe we do and perhaps we don’t.  Instead of judging, we should support colleagues or subordinates - and watch for signals or indicators that show a lack of balance. In short, this is a personal thing - it ebbs and flows with the seasons and with each individual.  Listen up…together, let’s stop throwing shade when we don’t know all the factors for another person.

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About the Podcast

Mickey Baines


Mickey Baines

Mickey Baines leads the technology services practice at Kennedy & Company. Kennedy & Co assists colleges and universities in the selection, implementation, customization and integration of various CRM technologies, including Salesforce, TargetX, Slate and others. They lead projects of all sizes for public and private two and four-year institutions. Whether he's working hands-on in an enrollment strategy project, leading a CRM implementation or speaking at a conference, the goal is the same - to help higher ed professionals implement technologies, strategies & tactics that engage and enroll more students.

Jamie Gleason


Jamie Gleason

Jamie Gleason is the Vice President Of Enrollment Strategy at Direct Development. He brings over 15 years of higher education experience to the team; almost a decade of which was spent on campus(es) and nearly six years was in edtech. A self-proclaimed "farmer + fixer," Enrollment has always provided the perfect challenge for him! He's happiest when mining through spreadsheets, results, and (generally) any type of data!

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